(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
GN[Pandanet Go European Cup , 3rd round, 3rd board, Brno]PW[Pal Balogh, 6.dan]PB[Ondrej Silt, 6.dan]DT[2007-09-01]EV[Pandanet Go European Cup, Brno]RO[3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[sheeryjay [5k\]: az budes mit cas tak to jmeno se da opravit - klidne az ke konci partie, prave jsem to zkousel
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: jak?
JackDalton [6k\]: ^^
Javaness [1d\]: \\o/ go agassi \\o/
sheeryjay [5k\]: Volby-Pravidla
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: jednoduche :)
sheeryjay [5k\]: jj :)
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: Ondrej still isn´t here
]RE[W+3.50]
;B[pd]
;W[dc]
;B[pp]
;W[dq]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[dd]
;W[cd]
;B[ec]
;W[cf]
;B[df]C[Baduk4you [4d\]: is there a website with results?
]
;W[dg]
;B[cc]
;W[db]
;B[bc]
;W[cb]
;B[cg]
;W[ch]
;B[bb]
;W[eb]
;B[bg]
;W[bf]C[Claire [?\]: http://www.goweb.cz/node/41?sort=rank=%3Ea
]
;B[fc]C[Baduk4you [4d\]: thx
]
;W[bd]
;B[bh]
;W[eg]
;B[fe]
;W[ci]
;B[ad]
;W[ae]
;B[fb]
;W[ba]
;B[pj]
;W[nc]
;B[lc]
;W[ld]
;B[kd]
;W[le]
;B[mc]
;W[oe]
;B[pe]
;W[of]
;B[qg]
;W[kc]
;B[kb]
;W[jc]C[GeRui [3d\]: UL corner doesn't look like joseki :P
janissary [2d\]: :D
]
;B[jd]
;W[jb]
;B[md]
;W[id]
;B[je]
;W[me]
;B[nd]
;W[ie]
;B[jf]
;W[if]
;B[jg]C[janissary [2d\]: difficult game for black..
]
;W[lb]C[janissary [2d\]: hmm
Redjoker [2d\]: black already lost
jumbogo123: black has a ko top left
]
;B[od]C[Redjoker [2d\]: wow very much^^
jumbogo123: and why lost b anyway?
jumbogo123: w stonet not too strong 
Redjoker [2d\]: if u can read the top left then u should know
]
;W[hb]
;B[fg]
;W[fh]
;B[gg]
;W[ig]C[jumbogo123: if u could tell me PLS
]
;B[gh]
;W[jh]
;B[lg]
;W[kg]C[Redjoker [2d\]: because w leads
janissary [2d\]: difficult 
]
;B[kf]C[janissary [2d\]: game
]
;W[kh]C[jumbogo123: arn't you a fake 2d??
]
;B[lf]
;W[lh]C[janissary [2d\]: ım fake 2d aheuaehea
janissary [2d\]: not fake
janissary [2d\]: sensin lan fake
janissary [2d\]: ım very strong 30kyu
jumbogo123: then i see your comment :(((
]
;B[mh]
;W[ef]C[janissary [2d\]: ım fake 2d strong 30k...
]
;B[gd]
;W[mg]
;B[mf]
;W[ng]
;B[ne]
;W[mi]C[rigoperl [1k\]: why not o11?
]
;B[fi]C[janissary [2d\]: for tht
Baduk4you [4d\]: because it doesnt work
janissary [2d\]: white want to kill black stones
janissary [2d\]: he wanna do strong and solid group...
janissary [2d\]: but ım fake maybe ı say wrong...
Redjoker [2d\]: i do not think so :D
Redjoker [2d\]: ur kind and have an idea
]
;W[dj]
;B[eh]
;W[dh]C[lactoserum [10k\]: how can i begin  a fake 9d?
janissary [2d\]: :)
rigoperl [1k\]: thank you Baduk4you, I see
janissary [2d\]: 2 year later...
janissary [2d\]: ı play at 1.5 year
janissary [2d\]: at mi olur len:D
janissary [2d\]: for 1.5 year:S
]
;B[fk]
;W[nq]
;B[or]C[rigoperl [1k\]: And what about o10 instead of n11?
janissary [2d\]: s4?
janissary [2d\]: or r6?
]
;W[rp]C[janissary [2d\]: wow
janissary [2d\]: s4 crazy:)
]
;B[qo]C[janissary [2d\]: butt good
janissary [2d\]: but good*
]
;W[ro]
;B[rn]
;W[qn]
;B[rm]C[Lesson [1d\]: S4 is not crazy, certenly pro (same as Lee Sedol) use that
]
;W[pn]C[janissary [2d\]: sus laan
janissary [2d\]: kafanı yararım ha
pasky [-\]: s4 standard I think?
pasky [-\]: p2 is what's a bit crazy ;))
]
;B[qm]
;W[pq]
;B[oq]
;W[op]
;B[oo]
;W[np]
;B[qq]C[janissary [2d\]: q5
janissary [2d\]: r2?
Malysz [6d\]: fatal mistake by w
]
;W[po]
;B[qp]
;W[qr]C[janissary [2d\]: hmm
janissary [2d\]: good 
janissary [2d\]: he heard me:D
janissary [2d\]: q5 and r2
janissary [2d\]: is it worK?
Malysz [6d\]: not really - seem to be desperate
Malysz [6d\]: q2 is good enough
]
;B[rq]C[Malysz [6d\]: later p6 takes white 3 stones
]
;W[rr]C[janissary [2d\]: q2 was good:S
]
;B[pr]
;W[sq]
;B[pq]
;W[nr]C[GeRui [3d\]: s2 looks like overdoing it
janissary [2d\]: he want to do moyo
GeRui [3d\]: but w wants sente
janissary [2d\]: good wall
janissary [2d\]: yea sente and wall
jumbogo123: it's nice to comment an action AFTER. when all of us see it. could you comment pls BEFORE ?
Molasson [2d\]: no, we can't, we are not 6dan
Molasson [2d\]: ^^
jumbogo123: or fake 2ds make so?
janissary [2d\]: zuhahah
janissary [2d\]: suss laan
jumbogo123: hahah 
janissary [2d\]: kıraım çeneni 
janissary [2d\]: :D
Malysz [6d\]: p6?
]
;B[on]C[jumbogo123: you had no idea why w makes this sequence
]
;W[pm]
;B[so]
;W[os]
;B[sp]
;W[om]
;B[mo]C[Uberdude [3d\]: n6 and sacrifice again!
jumbogo123: i do not understand what did u write but i can write something like this.
janissary [2d\]: n6
Malysz [6d\]: that would be strange idea
jumbogo123: kapd be a faszocskámak ki köcsög
janissary [2d\]: t19 really strange 
janissary [2d\]: heaueahueah
JeMeRends [6k\]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFiGPMxsnB4
jumbogo123: you try to make as you joke. but you do not undersand anything from this GAME
]
;W[kq]C[jumbogo123: there are real 2ds who do 
]
;B[mm]C[jumbogo123: but a janissary ... as fake 2d, .... noooo
jumbogo123: ah ah ah ...
]
;W[ok]
;B[pk]C[janissary [2d\]: suss lan
]
;W[ln]C[janissary [2d\]: ım fake 30kyu...
janissary [2d\]: ops pardon
]
;B[mn]C[janissary [2d\]: ım 30kyu:D
janissary [2d\]: real 30kyu...
janissary [2d\]: but really strong 30kyu...
rigoperl [1k\]: Ne törődj vele jumbogo!
janissary [2d\]: kafası güzel ya:D
jumbogo123: faszkalap írja a hülyeségeit.
jumbogo123: én is Palkónak szurkolok, de attól még baromság, amit ír
Uberdude [3d\]: odd peep
rigoperl [1k\]: :)
jumbogo123: azért köszi a lelki támaszt :)
Malysz [6d\]: O10 seems to be good enough
sheeryjay [5k\]: great, Magyar chat :(, maybe Ondrej would even understand something of that
Malysz [6d\]: black should not play Q9
janissary [2d\]: hmm
janissary [2d\]: t19 t19
Malysz [6d\]: O10 connects stones + makes atack on black + removes aji O12
janissary [2d\]: vayy yakışır:D
jumbogo123: görcsölsz bunkókám?
]
;W[oj]C[P3LiN [6k\]: görcez bakalımmı yazdın
rigoperl [1k\]: Janissary, please concentrate on the game
]
;B[ko]
;W[hi]C[janissary [2d\]: he
janissary [2d\]: vay türk var
janissary [2d\]: ya herkes bana takılıor
]
;B[oi]C[janissary [2d\]: ne çok sevenim var
]
;W[mk]
;B[jq]C[janissary [2d\]: bi janissary dir gidior:D
]
;W[kp]
;B[jp]C[krystin [10k\]: no pls speak ugrofindland 
janissary [2d\]: sus!
Princy [1d\]: w resign?
janissary [2d\]: maybe 
janissary [2d\]: o5 and m5 after tht
janissary [2d\]: maybe he can try tht
jumbogo123: bravoooo janissary that was a comment ... mybe ah ah ah 
]
;W[lo]C[janissary [2d\]: zuahuaha
janissary [2d\]: jumbo what is your level ?
janissary [2d\]: 9d?
P3LiN [6k\]: everyone can talk whatever he wants
P3LiN [6k\]: none of your business
janissary [2d\]: oppa
jumbogo123: i wrote you i beat you giving 5 handy
janissary [2d\]: aslan türk
janissary [2d\]: koru beni yav
janissary [2d\]: küçük buldu ezior
janissary [2d\]: eaueah
krystin [10k\]: zuahuaha  dis is ugrofindland ....haha ?
krystin [10k\]: :)
janissary [2d\]: ne dedi len bu:D
janissary [2d\]: kry amerikanların bi sözü vardır bildinmi:)
P3LiN [6k\]: zuhaha is an laughing effect in turkish
krystin [10k\]: hmm 
P3LiN [6k\]: he s so young,
janissary [2d\]: onumu sordu:D
krystin [10k\]: lol
janissary [2d\]: abla senin almancada var galba:D
janissary [2d\]: ım 16:(
jumbogo123: jani, you blame yourself
janissary [2d\]: yaa a.q.ycam haa
janissary [2d\]: sus lan yeter
]
;B[nj]
;W[nk]C[krystin [10k\]:  mamba was wa 
krystin [10k\]: wasa*
]
;B[lk]
;W[mj]
;B[lp]
;W[kr]C[daladim [1k\]: excuse me, i just arrived, pal balogh is macisajt isnt he ?
jumbogo123: yes
daladim [1k\]: thx
jumbogo123: wcm
krystin [10k\]: igen :)
jumbogo123: against agassi
janissary [2d\]: kolay gelsin  beyler
]
;B[kn]
;W[lm]
;B[kl]
;W[mp]C[krystin [10k\]: janissry : hele janičáři není ti rozumět
]
;B[lq]
;W[lr]
;B[km]
;W[mq]
;B[lp]
;W[lq]
;B[ll]
;W[lp]
;B[ml]
;W[jr]
;B[hq]
;W[ir]
;B[pl]
;W[ol]
;B[hl]
;W[co]C[pasky [-\]: the shapes at BR are so cool
]
;B[dl]
;W[en]
;B[ck]C[captnapalm [2k\]: does w feel he's ahead?
krystin [10k\]: I think do I  
]
;W[bi]
;B[go]
;W[fm]
;B[hr]
;W[ps]
;B[sr]
;W[ns]
;B[fl]C[snowman [-\]: black's top right looks big enough
]
;W[hm]
;B[im]
;W[hn]
;B[in]
;W[ho]
;B[hp]C[BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: black is in byoyomi
]
;W[cm]C[krystin [10k\]: a Balon ? kolik má času ? pls
]
;B[ab]
;W[ac]
;B[dr]
;W[er]
;B[ad]C[krystin [10k\]: mega ko 
]
;W[nf]
;B[ke]C[BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: hodne, nevidim tam :(
krystin [10k\]: ok dík 
]
;W[fq]
;B[ea]
;W[ac]
;B[cq]
;W[dp]
;B[ad]
;W[io]
;B[jo]
;W[ac]
;B[is]
;W[js]
;B[ad]
;W[pf]
;B[qf]
;W[ac]
;B[ls]
;W[ms]
;B[ad]
;W[hk]
;B[gl]
;W[ac]
;B[em]
;W[fn]
;B[ad]C[krystin [10k\]: ko for spectators :)
daladim [1k\]: c19
]
;W[jk]
;B[il]
;W[ac]
;B[gm]
;W[gn]
;B[ad]C[Gzperi [9k\]: w still win
daladim [1k\]: e15 and c19
jumbogo123: Redjoker, is this ko small?
jumbogo123: you was joking about this at the beginning
krystin [10k\]: I don't think  ... Gzperi
DirkPitt [1k?\]: 20-25 points
]
;W[ip]
;B[iq]C[jumbogo123: we have a lot of fake 2ds :)))
]
;W[ac]
;B[hc]
;W[ic]
;B[ad]
;W[ee]C[Malysz [6d\]: e15 and g15 is combination taking black group eye away.... so, ko is extremely big 
]
;B[ed]
;W[ac]
;B[oh]
;W[nh]
;B[ad]C[krystin [10k\]: it will decide
krystin [10k\]: "ko"
krystin [10k\]: game
hslewis [5k\]: i think w still wins without ko
evave [16k\]: now i get it....thx malysz
jumbogo123: its not enough if u think so
jumbogo123: i hope so
jumbogo123: but i am not sure if w wins
krystin [10k\]: prdlajs tomu rozumite medved vyhraje ja mu verim :)
jumbogo123: if b wins the ko w can compensate about 10-12 points, so ko is for w about 10-12 point lost.
jumbogo123: very difficult
hslewis [5k\]: ur right very close
jumbogo123: problem is if b wins the ko w has to realise his ko treath and then b has sente
evave [16k\]: are  f8 n f11 connected??
rigoperl [1k\]: Is not E10 a good ko threat?
jumbogo123: e9 and then f10 better, i think
rigoperl [1k\]: yes
rigoperl [1k\]: maybe
jumbogo123: not sure
]
;W[mb]C[rigoperl [1k\]: after w e9 is b e10 very good
evave [15k\]: ???
]
;B[ca]C[jumbogo123: w e9 b e10 w d9 b e8 and then w g10 also good
KarateKyu [-\]: ^saw a better move?
]
;W[ob]
;B[bp]C[jumbogo123: that is problem b had sente
evave [15k\]: b +re
evave [15k\]: ???
]
;W[br]C[KarateKyu [-\]: 1 question mark suffiices, and we will see ^^
]
;B[dn]C[evave [15k\]: k
]
;W[dm]
;B[el]
;W[cn]
;B[bl]
;W[bm]
;B[cr]
;W[bo]C[Uberdude [3d\]: r17 so big
]
;B[pb]C[KarateKyu [-\]: yay. B spotted!
evave [15k\]: ya
evave [15k\]: wow
]
;W[pa]C[krystin [10k\]: standart :))
]
;B[qb]C[MrPingvin [1d\]: w g4?
]
;W[gp]
;B[bs]
;W[ar]C[krystin [10k\]: agassi  go,go
]
;B[gs]C[krystin [10k\]: wow
]
;W[fr]C[MrPingvin [1d\]: Palika the best^^
krystin [10k\]: no ! :)
krystin [10k\]: hehe
]
;B[ik]
;W[ij]C[krystin [10k\]: best of Silt
]
;B[kj]C[MrPingvin [1d\]: Next c8?
]
;W[jj]
;B[qa]
;W[pg]
;B[ph]
;W[cl]
;B[dk]
;W[bk]
;B[bj]
;W[al]
;B[cj]
;W[aj]
;B[ej]
;W[di]
;B[gb]
;W[ga]
;B[fs]
;W[es]
;B[ni]
;W[lj]
;B[kk]
;W[ki]
;B[gj]
;W[hj]
;B[hh]
;W[ih]
;B[oa]
;W[na]
;B[oc]
;W[nb]
;B[gq]
;W[fp]C[Gzperi [9k\]: wow really even
]
;B[hd]
;W[hs]
;B[ds]
;W[ap]
;B[is]
;W[no]C[krystin [10k\]: yy Silt of master :)
]
;B[nn]
;W[hs]
;B[ao]
;W[aq]
;B[is]C[wanchan [1k\]: looks like w got it by about 1.5
]
;W[ei]
;B[ff]
;W[ai]C[krystin [10k\]: maybe 
MrPingvin [1d\]: far enough^^
]
;B[fh]
;W[hs]C[hslewis [5k\]: k8?
]
;B[bq]
;W[an]
;B[is]C[evave [15k\]: p12?
KarateKyu [-\]: 13
evave [15k\]: ya
KarateKyu [-\]: which opens up r12
evave [15k\]: ya
]
;W[jl]
;B[jm]
;W[hs]
;B[ss]
;W[qs]
;B[is]
;W[rs]
;B[fa]
;W[ha]
;B[sq]C[evave [15k\]: haha
]
;W[hs]
;B[ia]
;W[ib]
;B[is]
;W[ac]
;B[da]
;W[hs]
;B[ka]
;W[ja]
;B[is]
;W[he]C[krystin [10k\]: A 13 
]
;B[hs]
;W[ad]C[KarateKyu [-\]: is gote
]
;B[pa]
;W[mh]
;B[og]
;W[ge]
;B[gf]
;W[hf]
;B[hg]
;W[gi]
;B[gk]
;W[nl]
;B[nm]C[krystin [10k\]: hmm ok :)
]
;W[gr]
;B[]
;W[]
;B[]C[BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: white won by 3,5 points
MrPingvin [1d\]: Yay~~~
KarateKyu [-\]: woohoo!
krystin [10k\]: co se dá dělat 
rigoperl [1k\]: nice game
KarateKyu [-\]: go white, go white, it's your birthday!
Masurao [-\]: 337 moves !! 
krystin [10k\]: dík za přenos Brno 
rigoperl [1k\]: both players are very good
])